Well the kindly folks over at HAMAS have helpfully put together a list of companies that you must boycott in order to STOP ZIONISM NOW! By the way, feel free to go and bake a casserole or change your transmission fluid while Steve runs through the list of things that we must all give up in order to support the continued decapitation of Israeli babies.

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Phil Leith
December 13, 2023 4:57 AM

Bots. Back when twitter first, shall we say, “blew up” and we started hearing about it on newscasts and the concept of “trending” on social media came out — and news broadcasts started having “what’s trending on twitter” segments – I saw this coming. I saw the potential for exploitation. And somebody near the end here nailed it. They’re exploiting “social proof”. It is ALMOST (and I don’t think it was – I won’t rule it out, though, it couldn’t have been designed an promoted better if it were) … it’s ALMOST like it was a plan from the beginning.… Read more »

Phil Leith
December 13, 2023 4:42 AM

So what do you call it when someone puts out some sort of media in a daily barrage to convince people that something is true and they should or shouldn’t support something?

Propa … propa …. oh yeah, propaganda.

Arthur Hotchkiss
December 5, 2023 4:02 PM

Caterpillar makes an armored D9 for Israel. I saw a U-tube video of it most recently.

Paul Skidmore
December 4, 2023 10:28 AM

I don’t know if it is just my connection or what,but it still seems to me that Steve’s audio feed is still a couple of seconds ahead of Bill and Scott, or at least Scott’s feed. It seems that Steve is talking over Scott especially and to some extent over Bill as well. Maybe the slap of the sticks is not what it is supposed to be.

Thad Balmas
Reply to  Paul Skidmore
December 4, 2023 3:35 PM

Steve’s audio is also lower than Bill’s and Scott’s. I am constantly turning the volume up and down.

ACTS (TM)
Reply to  Paul Skidmore
December 5, 2023 7:10 AM

It’s not your connection. I have a great internet connection and top tier networking gear. I’m a retired IP pro and I have stuff most home users would never even consider buying nor have any idea how to set it all up. It’s a lag issue between Steve and the other two. Steve is getting their audio late so he doesn’t know he’s talking over them until he’s done so. If he waits to see if anyone has anything to say there will be long gaps of dead air. I’m not sure how to fix this in editing, or even… Read more »

Sash S
Reply to  Paul Skidmore
December 5, 2023 11:40 AM

But this audio non sync and lower sound is relatively new. Maybe weeks or a month or more. One of the three changed something. That person needs to go back to what worked for years.

Nelson Guzman
December 4, 2023 5:52 AM

Hi guys. Will you please do an episode on the allegations that Mossad had a 50 page copy of the exact plan Hamas was going to use to attack it, a year in advance, but ignored it? And is it true that a Mossad agent saw Hamas fighters practicing the exact tactics contained in the plan a week or so before the attack, reported it to Mossad and Mossad ignored it again? For our 9/11, America knew Bin Laden was going to attack us, but NOT where, how or when. Here, IF TRUE, Israel knew EVERYTHING but chose to ignore… Read more »

ACTS (TM)
Reply to  Nelson Guzman
December 4, 2023 9:53 AM

Even if “the allegations” are correct it wouldn’t be the first time political leadership had screwed up and allowed a tragedy to happen. Bill Clinton had the opportunity to kill Osama Bin Laden and refused to do so. The Roosevelt administration had intelligence that the Japanese were planning to attack Pearl Harbor. Even if Roosevelt himself WANTED that attack to happen to force us into the war it was still stupid to have all our major naval heavy hitters tied up at docks when the Japs hit us. Imagine all the American lives that would have been saved if all… Read more »

Karl Schweitzer
Reply to  ACTS (TM)
December 4, 2023 8:41 PM

I wonder if there is a point, and if so where it is, when the moral responsibility of the random Gaza resident is to turn in, attack, or otherwise inform the IDF of Hamas militants. It certainly is terrible that innocent civilians are dying but in a situation of Total War (a term I am sure you are familiar with and understand) the civilians need to pick a side because the somewhat satirical Murphy won’t care. As the rule says “It isn’t the one with your name on it you need to worry about but the one addressed To Whom… Read more »

ACTS (TM)
Reply to  Karl Schweitzer
December 5, 2023 6:06 AM

You’re trying to shoehorn Western morality into a place where it doesn’t apply. I’m not criticizing you, it’s a very common thing for Americans to do. Because we as Americans have no frame of reference to understand concepts totally alien to our way of life. I’ll try to demonstrate what I mean by that … “Moral responsibility” is something we in the West concern ourselves with much more than the rest of the world. It is a mark of cultural superiority and maturity, among many others. One culture is NOT “just as good as any other”, that’s a lie of… Read more »

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Karl Schweitzer
Reply to  ACTS (TM)
December 5, 2023 9:01 PM

Regarding the morality of Arabs, I was thinking from a Western point of view but not quite in the way to which you responded (which was very informative and did essentially answer my question). My original thought was in a normal war, you can separate the civilians from the soldiers by where the bases and factories are built, the uniforms worn, etc. You might not be able to divest the civilian from the policy of their government if the government is not duly elected or was fraudulent in their campaign. That does not apply to Gaza. No, at some point… Read more »

ACTS (TM)
Reply to  Karl Schweitzer
December 7, 2023 11:40 AM

I realize I’m kind of a hardass about this stuff. I didn’t used to be this way, it’s a learned trait. So the way I see it is … There’s no such thing as innocent civilians. The people of a nation are responsible for what its government does in their name. If they don’t want to be bombed back to the stone age then they should take steps to change their government, or the way the government they have in place does things. If they don’t do that, they can’t hide behind a wall of tears about what happens to… Read more »

Karl Schweitzer
Reply to  ACTS (TM)
December 8, 2023 3:27 PM

It sounds like we are thinking the same way, just phrasing things from a slightly different angle and this might as far as this dialog thread needs to go, for now.

I could have addressed my initial comment to the various and sundry leftists calling for cease fires in a thought experiment and wonder if they would ever admit to what we’re both positing. My guess is no due to their simplistic oppressor/victim tenant of faith and the fact they would rather feel good about their deeds than actually accomplish anything good for those they consider downtrodden.

ACTS (TM)
Reply to  Karl Schweitzer
December 9, 2023 10:22 AM

There has developed and is getting worse a cognitive disconnect between “what is good” and “what will bring me the praise of my peers”. Morality, bereft of its traditional anchors and foundations, seems to be steadily drifting towards Evil.

I’m not sure what can be done about that. Sadly, I see it even on our side of the political divide where it has no business being. Thankfully, I don’t see it a lot on our side. Yet.

George Walther
Reply to  ACTS (TM)
December 7, 2023 8:32 AM

Great comment. But how many Western political or public figures do we know who have publicly indicated they understand this as well? A few that come to mind include Andy McCarthy (for prosecuting the 1993 tower terrorists); Newt Gingrich (although he waffles with “Terrorist Wing of Islam” or some such language); Geert Wilders in Holland; probably some of the leaders in the Balkan countries, and Poland; and I suspect there are 3 or 4 more that I am not recalling at the moment. Maybe the Scandinavian countries and Belgium are waking up? Plus there are a sizeable number of sub-tier… Read more »

ACTS (TM)
Reply to  George Walther
December 7, 2023 12:11 PM

There are, despite the teachings of base Islam, non-threatening Muslims in the world. They’re by no means saints and without their own faults but they do exist. Take Malaysia for instance. When is the last time you heard of Malaysian Islamic terrorists carrying out an attack on The West in the name of jihad? I’m sure Malaysia has terrorists, so do we. For instance Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols. McVeigh and Nichols killed a bunch of people in the “name” of their religion, which is a thing called “Christian Identity”. Superficially and as it contains the designation “Christian” one might… Read more »

Karl Schweitzer
Reply to  George Walther
December 8, 2023 3:32 PM

As ACTS points out, there are cultures and there are religions. Sometimes the two are too intertwined to make any difference but in those cases the religion involved cannot be used to understand another culture that might also practice a religion of the same name. With both Christianity and Islam there are several denominations or schisms or whatever and that means there is something they disagree about. It will often be necessary to know what that point of disagreement is to know whether it is a factor in whatever two cultures are doing differently. Also, how far back in history… Read more »

ACTS (TM)
Reply to  Karl Schweitzer
December 9, 2023 10:26 AM

Bravo, that’s a very thoughtful and astute look at things.

Nelson Guzman
Reply to  ACTS (TM)
December 5, 2023 7:40 AM

Hello. No, I am not antisemitic. I fully support Israel in this war, as I have in all its wars. I agree that my question/request doesn’t matter at the moment. What does matter is that Israel wins. My request was proposed on the basis that I find it so hard to believe allegations that even when a Mossad agent witnessed Hamas practicing the tactics detailed in the ‘plan’ Mossad had, it was again ignored. while I support President Roosevelt’s wanting to help England. I am saddened by the thought that he deliberately let 3,200 American service men be killed or… Read more »

ACTS (TM)
Reply to  Nelson Guzman
December 5, 2023 7:58 AM

“Hello. No, I am not antisemitic. I fully support Israel in this war, as I have in all its wars.” I’m both very happy and extremely relieved to see you say that. Because that’s the right position to take on this matter and I’m very glad to see you agree. One of the big problems with communicating in this manner is the brevity everyone seems to see as some sort of preference. It makes is very difficult to ascertain where someone is coming from. Which makes it very difficult to understand how to address them and what they say. So… Read more »

David B
Reply to  Nelson Guzman
December 4, 2023 11:40 AM

FDR knew Japan was going to attack Pearl Harbor. Very possible Polish leaders knew Hitler was going to invade. Knowing is one thing, knowing the exact plans is another. Had Bush yanked just one of the 9/11/2001 hijackers off the plane for closer inspection, we’d STILL be litigating over the violation of his civil rights. The good guys have to be 100% accurate 100% of the time, bad guys only have to succeed once.

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Karl Schweitzer
Reply to  Nelson Guzman
December 4, 2023 8:47 PM

I would personally doubt the “know everything” allegation and even if there was some fully written plan (which when you think about it is just farcical on its face) the Israeli intelligence system could have vast pieces of the overall plan and still not find it credible. If they don’t have enough intelligence about planning support from Iran, enough details about the funding or supply trails, most plans would be seen as wishful thinking. Sure, you have the numbers of fanatics and could possibly collect information about location and numbers of Israeli troops that would be required for such a… Read more »

ACTS (TM)
Reply to  Karl Schweitzer
December 5, 2023 6:51 AM

There’s also the fact that the Israelis have been seeing this sort of “plan” on a constant basis since Israel became an independent nation. The vast majority of these “plans” never amount to a wet phart in a soggy paper bag. When you’re dealing with people who hate you and want to kill you, every plan contains hatred and schemes for your death. This one, even if Netanyahu and his government knew of it, is very hard to pick out from that kind of background noise. There are only so many resources to devote to so many intelligence operations. The… Read more »

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David B
Reply to  Karl Schweitzer
December 8, 2023 9:35 AM

Old Chinese saying: It they are crazy enough to think about it (‘wishful thinking’ in your terms), they are crazy enough to try it.”

ACTS (TM)
Reply to  David B
December 9, 2023 10:41 AM

That old Chinese saying is not necessarily true. For instance … In a conversation with my neighbors on a local back porch over beverages one early evening the subject of hummingbirds came up. I commented that they are some of the most difficult sword targets to successfully engage. I was just joking, of course I have never tried to slice a hummingbird in half with my edged weapons and would never do so but … I “thought” of it. One of my neighbor ladies nearly blew a gasket. She said … “If you can even think of something like that… Read more »

David B
Reply to  ACTS (TM)
December 10, 2023 10:33 AM

Done my time as a ‘sheepdog,’ ACTS. Now I’m just an beat up, old, long in the tooth, cripple former mama bear, hobbling around trying to keep my grandkids in the flock.

ACTS (TM)
Reply to  David B
December 10, 2023 1:43 PM

I hear you and these days I’m in the same boat. Except I don’t have to work too hard on my grandkids, thank God. They were all raised right so mostly for me it’s a matter of joy and pride to watch/hear about them. I’m very fortunate in that and I know and am very grateful for that.

ACTS (TM)
Reply to  Harry Ferguson
December 10, 2023 4:35 PM

You’re damn right I can be an asshole. I’d like to think that after having worked at that my whole life I’ve nearly perfected it. Thank you for speaking up on this subject. Just recently I was told that when I speak (or rather write) acerbically it degrades my credibility. I think the opposite is true. I think that sort of accusation is meant to degrade my credibility because that’s how some people strike back when they get called on boneheaded foolishness. As a brief example of the problem — Not too long ago a small organization tested some “vocal… Read more »

ACTS (TM)
December 4, 2023 5:51 AM

It’s hardly surprising that bloodthirsty murdering savages and their supporters would make unreasonable, unrealistic “boycott” demands. It would be out of character for them to do otherwise because “unreasonable and unrealistic” are their default. What this nonsense does is highlight and amplify the absurdity of their position. Strangely we find this same phenomena emanating from the Left with disturbing ubiquity. ‘Absurd’ seems to be the end goal of almost all Leftist policies. Consistency and logic do not appear to matter at all. Radical Islamic militancy would literally put 99% of the Leftists supporting them up against a wall without the… Read more »

Bart Lago
December 3, 2023 9:48 PM

Here is my list of alternatives I would like to spend money on;
BAE
Basil-Hayden
Boeing
Colt
Federal
General Dynamics
Grumman-Northrop
Leadslingers-Whiskey
Lockheed
Raytheon
to name a few

Mark Hunn
December 3, 2023 5:43 PM

The Stupid People don’t even know the IDF’s D9 armored bulldozer is made in the USA by Caterpillar and armored in Israel. No surprise they missed that, the sorts of people who glue themselves to things might find five minutes with Google to be too much effort.

Rick Notkin
December 3, 2023 5:21 PM

I believe that it was Ben Shapiro who, shortly after the attack, said: Imagine the most horrible cruel thing that someone has done to you. Now, would that “provoke” you to commit the attacks that Hamas video and posted online? More than likely, your answer is “no”.

I believe that it was Dan Bongino who said, after he called the Hamas attackers animals, corrected himself. He said that animals don’t engage in this sort of behavior. They kill for food or to defend themselves or their families. Animals don’t kill for no reason.

Cathy Shepherd
December 3, 2023 4:31 PM

Gobstoppers? Oh, say it isn’t so!