The Ninth Circuit Court (!) just handed down a ruling that the citizenship rules outlined in the 14th Amendment must apply AS WRITTEN, rather then how Democrats have PRETENDED it was written. Bill, Steve and Scott discuss the thorny issue of what to do about people already granted US Citizenship through the Left’s cruel and capricious effort to manufacture not just votes, but entire voters.
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I think Bill’s solution makes good sense and would work. However, it’s imperative to streamline and modernize the legal immigration process! It must be made easier, cheaper and secure. I believe that part of the reason illegal immigration exploded is because it is so difficult to do legally. God Bless.
I was born in 1964 in Germany to a German mother (single at the time) and American Soldier father. When we came to the United States in 1973 (parents now married), I traveled on a German passport and greencard. My parents hired a lawyer to not only change my last name from my mother’s maiden name to my father’s, but to also begin my mother’s & my citizenship process. Through the Army, we returned to Germany from 1976-1979. Fast forward to 1983, I joined the Marine Corps, honestly thinking at that time that I was a US Citizen. Fast forward… Read more »
I sympathize deeply with the difficult process you encountered. My daughter-in-law had a difficult time becoming a U.S. citizen despite not only receiving her education here and becoming an attorney for a strong company, but even with marrying my son she had to jump through hoops. The basic issue must be considered in the broad view of what “strict” rules must apply, as with all institutions, including the Marine Corps, and bright lines of okay and not okay are created because gray areas between okay and not okay simply cause more confusion, distrust, and abuse. Had your parents been married,… Read more »
There were a couple of scenarios being discussed but in case of the guy whose had a US passport his whole life? Even gone and had it renewed? I say you’re in. I think “providing a path to do it right” is even asking too much (although I understand the thought process.) I don’t think people who have been told they are Citizens should have that revoked (unless we are talking about a clerical error caught promptly, etc.) Obviously it needs to be fixed going forward and no one else gets that loophole. As for illegal immigrants its tough too… Read more »
admit I draw a distinction between compassion between or among individuals and that owed by institutions. The latter are “heartless” at a basic level but without them we have chaos. We also try to moderate that heartlessness by providing for moderation and discretion by our judges but with narrow limits and complex procedures to make laws malleable and flexible. Your comments bear the hallmarks of empathy, moderation, and flexibility yet also set limits. I hope our representatives will display similar attributes.
United States v Throckmorton; “fraud vitiates everything” anchor babies have NO basis for citizenship because it is a crime. “Birthright” citizenship is NOT citizenship.
Now offer your plan to deal with the problem.
Bill, you ask for solutions. So here’s mine. A Reasonable and Workable Solution to the DACA and Illegal Immigration Problem Illegal immigrants who have lived in the United States for a reasonable period of time (let’s say more than five years) and have not committed a felony should be granted a modified amnesty—but they must NEVER be allowed to vote. Under no circumstances should anyone who entered the country illegally, regardless of age at the time, be permitted to vote in any U.S. election—federal, state, or local. They can live and work here legally, pay taxes, and enjoy the benefits… Read more »
Bill, “6-7 year process” my ass! My step daughter and her 3 year old son immigrated LEGALLY in 2012. That boy began high school last year, and they both are STILL waiting for processing, interviews, printing, etc. 13 years and still marking time.
Yes, 6 years is kind of the minimum if you have someone like Bill and the lawyer they hired on your side. Bill and Natasha spent a lot of money I think shepherding the process.
I forgot to include public notoriety and bucks. I stand corrected.
Actually, I sit when I type, so I sit corrected. 😀
As someone who was born in Japan to American parents, I was never given Japanese citizenship, and when I was applying for OCS in the US Army, my typed-out birth certificate wasn’t sufficient to prove my US citizenship, it had to be the form where my father registered my birth at a US consulate – and that was despite my having a valid US passport. When I applied for permanent residency in Japan, I was told that citizenship would be much easier for me to get, because not only was I born here, my parents are buried here (they were… Read more »
I think there needs to be a happy medium that can make most everyone at least nod their heads in agreement. All the infants born here within thin newly contested lane would have a new status. Call it Green Card Plus. Many of these may not even live in the US so a temporary status may be appropriate. They will have 1 year to apply for full citizenship, which must be completed on US soil. It will not be free but much cheaper than the current process (I’m sure some cases can be granted a waiver at a much reduced… Read more »
First: Mr. Whittle, since your Dad is a US citizen, all of his children are US citizens regardless of where they were born. For instance, my half-sister was born in Saudi Arabia–but since our Dad and her Mom are US citizens, she is a US citizen (and a natural-born one, so she is eligible to be president). This is also why Barak Obama could be president even if he was born outside of the US (as his Mom is a US citizen) and Ted Cruz is eligible to be president even though he was born in Canada (or wherever). For… Read more »
I think there are 3 parts to this. 1) Set an immediate date where the subject to the jurisdiction thereof” clause means what it says. 2) Children born here through no fault of their own should have some path to citizenship. 3) The illegal immigrant parents should be granted permanent residency of some sort, with no chance to become citizens and vote in our elections. This would offset the open border scheme of importing millions of future Democrat voters.