The Ninth Circuit Court (!) just handed down a ruling that the citizenship rules outlined in the 14th Amendment must apply AS WRITTEN, rather then how Democrats have PRETENDED it was written. Bill, Steve and Scott discuss the thorny issue of what to do about people already granted US Citizenship through the Left’s cruel and capricious effort to manufacture not just votes, but entire voters.
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United States v Throckmorton; “fraud vitiates everything” anchor babies have NO basis for citizenship because it is a crime. “Birthright” citizenship is NOT citizenship.
Now offer your plan to deal with the problem.
Bill, you ask for solutions. So here’s mine. A Reasonable and Workable Solution to the DACA and Illegal Immigration Problem Illegal immigrants who have lived in the United States for a reasonable period of time (let’s say more than five years) and have not committed a felony should be granted a modified amnesty—but they must NEVER be allowed to vote. Under no circumstances should anyone who entered the country illegally, regardless of age at the time, be permitted to vote in any U.S. election—federal, state, or local. They can live and work here legally, pay taxes, and enjoy the benefits… Read more »
Bill, “6-7 year process” my ass! My step daughter and her 3 year old son immigrated LEGALLY in 2012. That boy began high school last year, and they both are STILL waiting for processing, interviews, printing, etc. 13 years and still marking time.
Yes, 6 years is kind of the minimum if you have someone like Bill and the lawyer they hired on your side. Bill and Natasha spent a lot of money I think shepherding the process.
I forgot to include public notoriety and bucks. I stand corrected.
Actually, I sit when I type, so I sit corrected. 😀
As someone who was born in Japan to American parents, I was never given Japanese citizenship, and when I was applying for OCS in the US Army, my typed-out birth certificate wasn’t sufficient to prove my US citizenship, it had to be the form where my father registered my birth at a US consulate – and that was despite my having a valid US passport. When I applied for permanent residency in Japan, I was told that citizenship would be much easier for me to get, because not only was I born here, my parents are buried here (they were… Read more »
I think there needs to be a happy medium that can make most everyone at least nod their heads in agreement. All the infants born here within thin newly contested lane would have a new status. Call it Green Card Plus. Many of these may not even live in the US so a temporary status may be appropriate. They will have 1 year to apply for full citizenship, which must be completed on US soil. It will not be free but much cheaper than the current process (I’m sure some cases can be granted a waiver at a much reduced… Read more »
First: Mr. Whittle, since your Dad is a US citizen, all of his children are US citizens regardless of where they were born. For instance, my half-sister was born in Saudi Arabia–but since our Dad and her Mom are US citizens, she is a US citizen (and a natural-born one, so she is eligible to be president). This is also why Barak Obama could be president even if he was born outside of the US (as his Mom is a US citizen) and Ted Cruz is eligible to be president even though he was born in Canada (or wherever). For… Read more »
I think there are 3 parts to this. 1) Set an immediate date where the subject to the jurisdiction thereof” clause means what it says. 2) Children born here through no fault of their own should have some path to citizenship. 3) The illegal immigrant parents should be granted permanent residency of some sort, with no chance to become citizens and vote in our elections. This would offset the open border scheme of importing millions of future Democrat voters.
I’m curious, could these people apply for citizenship who were born here and considered as citizens until now?
I feel like we need some clarification of this “subject to the jurisdiction” clause in order to understand the law and intent of the 14th Amendment. IF you are an American subject to the jurisdiction of the United States of America THEN anywhere you go in the world you remain subject to the jurisdiction of the U.S. as though you were still inside the political boundaries of the U.S.. This is a double-edged sword because if you break U.S. law wherever you are you can be held accountable in an American court. If the law is in your favor then… Read more »
Given the division in this country, it appears the practical must outweigh the perfect. When courts have made the wrong decision regarding a single case, a correction must be made. As pointed out in comments and Bill’s discussion, it is impractical to expel everyone based on this new interpretation. The short path to citizenship could be granted to those above voting age but not those below as they lack the political connection to the United States. Those who join the armed forces, fire department, police, etc. would have expedited citizenship as well, taking what measures are required. Those below age… Read more »